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A mini issue today!


Abigail Nussbaum posted It's Easy to Be a Saint in Paradise: Thoughts on The Good Place's Third Season: "All of which is to say that it can be a bit intimidating to express criticism or skepticism about The Good Place's worldbuilding, because odds are that your reaction is the point, all the way back to "wait, the afterlife in this show doesn't make any sense" in the first season. Nevertheless, I find myself troubled by some of the conclusions the show reaches in its third season and where it proceeds from them."

Clare McBride for SyFy Wire posted How genre has failed and served queer representation: "It’s been a slow, uphill progression for queer representation in genre literature. Genre television and genre film lag a little behind genre literature, but we have more options than ever. But the very variety we have lays bare the two major problems facing queer representation in genre fiction: the limitations of metaphor and the limitations of accessibility."

[tumblr.com profile] itsladykit posted Have you ever changed the direction of a fic you were writing based off of audience reaction to a part?: "Accepting criticism from trusted sources is an important part of the creative process, especially when producing a commercial product. But the key phrase there would be “trusted sources”."


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[personal profile] alisx posted Consume, create, curate.: "Consumptive fandom, is primarily concerned with having “the most” of something. For example, “the most comics books”, “the most Lord of the Rings trivia”, “the most Supernatural convention attendances.”"

fluffysheap for Purple Row posted Fandom in the Time of Money: A rebuttal: "I guess I have a little issue with this notion of "exploiting" fandom. Exploiting implies a one-sided or unfair relationship which I don't think actually exists. The implication here is that owners are manipulating fans into siding with them, when in a fair relationship the fans would side more with the players. But I really don't think this is the case at all. Fans don't care about owners or players, they care about the sport itself."

[personal profile] gunsnships at [community profile] fan_flashworks posted House MD: Meta: On Autistic House & Stimming: "The concept of House as an autistic person is toyed with in the show, especially in season 3 episode 4 Lines in the Sand, but there it’s dismissed as ridiculous. I’d like to put that as the fact that men in their forties addicted to painkillers aren’t the poster child for our diagnosis, and so it’s easy to miss obvious signs on them— it’s the same case with woman-presenting people, because of sexism in psychiatry and the study of autism."

Ia Cabarle at RareJob Scribbles posted TV, Fandom, and Shipping: "I would be remiss to say that there is not a bit of schadenfreude on my part because of all this…straight-baiting, but the Elementary writers being adamant about Joan and Sherlock’s friendship opens up another avenue that is also rarely explored in media: platonic love between a man and a woman."

[personal profile] minim_calibre posted [Meta] The State of Fandom, as seen by me, reported by me, & experienced by me. Opinions are my own.: "Because there's nothing new under the sun, just different variations on the same old song."


Flashback - June 4, 2013

Adi Robertson for The Verge posted How Amazon's commercial fan fiction misses the point: "In May, Amazon announced Kindle Worlds, a fan fiction wing of its publishing program. In exchange for work written for three Warner Bros. shows, authors will receive between 20 and 35 percent of the revenue from each sale. Rather than existing in legal limbo, stories will be officially sanctioned by copyright holders. And it's one of the only ways for fan fiction authors to easily sell their work. But to some authors, Kindle Worlds is still a step backwards — an effort to monetize fan fiction while stripping out its best features."

More: Kindle Worlds entry on Fanlore.


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Happy Sunday! I'm trying really hard to stick to the tentative posting schedule, which at the moment is Sundays, Wednesdays, and the occasional Friday.

Thank you to everyone who suggested links over the last few issues! I'm particularly thankful for links of off-Dreamwidth meta. I haven't been finding as much new stuff on Tumblr/Pillowfort/etc., suprisingly; if you happen to run into anything good, please send it along for possible inclusion in a future issue. ♥


[personal profile] cimorene posted Rivers of London: shipping in canon and fanon (the role of fan favorites): "This fandom seems like a perfect example to me of that situation where people like the woman in a f/m relationship - I'd bet that probably everybody who ships the protagonist with Nightingale instead (or in addition but not in OT3, as in... will read both/either) likes her - but are more interested in the other ship because of (1) interest in the other character (and a desire to put that character in a pairing) and (2) screentime and story weight devoted to the relationship."

Claire Rousseau (Youtube) posted Hugo Awards Nominations 101 - Who, What & How Can You Nominate?: "Time for a deep dive into the hugo Awards nomination process!!"

[personal profile] jadislefeu posted On setting up Calibre for fanfic: "was asked on Discord for a tutorial about using Calibre for fanfic in general! Please feel welcome to share or link this wherever, because it was more work than I realized it would be when I started and I want it to be useful to people."

[personal profile] lovetincture posted The Ethics of Monetizing Fanworks: "Leaving aside legality, because I think that’s already been discussed by people who are much, much smarter than I am, my primary concern about the monetization of fanworks is ethics."

[personal profile] naye posted Guardian meta-meta: Censorship and Homosexuality in China: "However, given the political situation in the People's Republic of China, every interview touching on sensitive subjects (and homosexuality is absolutely a sensitive subject) must out of necessity come with an aspect of performance, as there are things you absolutely cannot say. My thoughts on that kind of spiralled out of control, and so here's a long meta (meta-meta?) about Guardian, censorship and homosexuality in the PRC."

[personal profile] nostalgia posted It's A Topic ("You wore your soldier-hat!"): "I come at this mostly from Dr Whom fandom, which has been monetising fandom in one way or another since at least the 90s. (It use to be fairly easy to find old bits of fic by NA/EDA/BF writers online, and some of it's probably still there.) I once got into a fight on Outpost Gallifrey because I called the tie-in books "published fanfic" and one of the authors assumed I meant "they're shit, because all fanfic is shit.""

Rowan Ellis (Youtube) posted The Evolution Of Queerbaiting: From Queercoding to Queercatching: "From The Hays Code to the new phenomenon of "queercatching" - here is the history of queerbaiting. Including all your favourite like every Disney villain ever, Destiel, Valkyrie, Johnlock, Sterek, Le Fou, Sulu, the Yellow Power Ranger, and more!"


Flashback - April 1, 2015

A nostalgic look at LiveJournal:

Lindsay Gates-Markel for The Toast posted In Celebration of Old-School LiveJournal: "I can’t shake the memory that writing was easy in the LiveJournal days; I remember sitting at that computer desk in my childhood home, writing about my innermost joys, and pausing at the keyboard, my fingers poised over the keys. I shut my eyes and waited, knowing the next words would come soon—and they always did. Whether they came only because I believed they would, or vice versa, I still don’t know. But in the same way I knew the words would come, I knew that life would always be good to me, that its riches would always be clear to me; or at least that I could be “poet enough” to seek them out."


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A selection of links for a (cold!) Wednesday morning!


Cindy Massre at Page Deep posted I Read the Gayest Star Trek Novel: "To understand how Pocket Books just accidentally published a book where Spock spends a lot of time looking at Kirk’s “hazel orbs,” we need to understand the state of Star Trek’s fandom at the time. In the years after the original show was cancelled, the Star Trek fandom, desperate to connect and celebrate and collaborate over this truly unique show, had developed much of what we know as fandom today."

[personal profile] lynnenne at [community profile] mcu_cosmic posted Let's Talk About Asgardian Colonialism: "Hello, and welcome to your weekly Sunday discussion post! This week's topic has minor spoilers for Thor: Ragnarok and Infinity War, so I'm putting it beneath a cut for anyone who hasn't seen the films."

[personal profile] redrikki posted Star Wars Meta: Jedi Cult?: "I like to joke about how the Jedi are actually just a messed up space cult, but let’s take a look at that claim, shall we? The International Cult Studies Association defines a cult as “an ideological organization held together by charismatic relations and demanding total commitment.” Sounds like the Jedi to me."

SakuraNoMiko (Pillowfort) posted Canon: "That said--has anyone gotten really into a fic without knowing the canon? Read fic before seeing the actual show? I'm curious if it influenced your opinion of the show when you finally saw it."

Stitch at Stitch's Media Mix posted What Fandom Racism Looks Like: Misogynoir – Introduction: "Misogynoir is alive and well in fandom spaces and few people seem willing to acknowledge it or listen to Black women talking about this specific form of racialized misogyny in fandom."

[personal profile] tobermoriansass posted obligatory fic comments discourse: "I’ll be honest, one very specific and slightly weird (intensely personal) reason why I hate the whole “if you read a fic you like you must leave a comment” is the way it means people have started to talk about this social activity that is really, truly a hobby space, in terms of payment and investment and labour and what is deserved and undeserved."


Flashback - 1997

Today's flashback meta comes via Fanlore, which reproduced it with permission from the Original Poster. It's coming from a time when fandom was moving from print (/offline) to electronic (/online), and the tensions between the two fan communities were running somewhat high. Sandy wrote an overview of the situation and posted it to the Virgule-l mailing list, the first Internet slash mailing list.

Some topics covered: Virgule-l history, (slash) conventions and con panels, in-crowds vs. out-crowds, classism, netfans vs. print fans.

Sandy Herrold posted Internet Fans Controversy Du Jour: "At Escapade & Zcon & MediaWestCon, 94, we were 'The Connected' and we continually tried to convince The Unconnected to buy a computer or add a modem. The Unconnected pushed back, mostly saying, 'I'm not convinced there is enough out there to make the investment worth while--prove it to me, and I'll join you.""


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Hello, happy Sunday, here's some links, and oh btw: we've passed 600 subscribers (+42 since the last issue).

\o/


[personal profile] akamine_chan posted signal boost: on fandom and the "culture of selling": "There's the fact that for a long time, selling of fanworks was a big no-no because we were trying to stay under the radar and not attract the attention of copyright holders. And the fact that for years, fannish endeavors were considered frivolous and valueless."

[twitter.com profile] elle_em posted a discussion about embarrassing fanfic: "So tell me, what's the most embarrassing piece of fanfiction you will COURAGEOUSLY ADMIT to writing?? Come on, BE BRAVE LIKE THE TROOPS."

Elizabeth Minkel for Medium posted “You’re Gonna Love This Franchise:” Fandom, corporate media, and San Diego Comic-Con: "I have only known this corporate behemoth, and for me, the event in its current form is what it is: a specific shape, only growing outwards rather than truly abandoning any one of its components, a sort of massive snowball picking up more and more pop culture as it hurtles down the mountain."

[tumblr.com profile] freedom-of-fanfic posted Any idea why the MST virtually disappeared from fandom?: "While some fics that were MST’ed were written for the express purpose of being MST’ed, or submitted for MSTing, many were not, and the practice was incredibly cruel. You can imagine how horrible it would be to find your fic had been plagiarized by another author for the express purpose of making fun of how bad the fic was."

[personal profile] sciatrix posted what's sovereignty worth to me, anyway?: "I think, though, that I'm still uneasy, and I'm fundamentally uneasy because to me what I am hearing echoed from the various Fediverse/p2p/Mastodon schools of How Fandom Should Do Next is that the future of fandom should be decentralized and spread around many small communities, each maintained and monitored by a few moderators. Like a set of fiefdoms, but administered without hereditary rule, with mobile users who can transfer allegiances from one fiefdom to another quickly--at least in theory."

[personal profile] tammaiya for [community profile] disgracetoscholars posted In the Weeds: Same-Sex Subtext in Mainstream Media (Part One) : "This feature is specifically examining quasi-canon subtextual/implied same-sex relationships in popular East Asian media, particularly in relation to (1) the reasons why creators often leave it to the audience to read between the lines rather than outright confirm, and (2) the signs that imply that kind of authorial intent."


Flashback - January 2001

This piece of meta was written before the prevalence of things like coffee shop AUs, but it's still great because it's not really about SPECIFIC AUs. Instead, really digs down deep into WHAT makes an AU interesting/successful/etc., and why some AU fanfics work better than others.

[personal profile] ratcreature posted How to construct Alternate Universes that work as fanfic: "There are AUs which change very little, say the profession of the main characters, and don't work as fanfic anymore, whereas there are others, which change the species of the same characters (and with it a whole lot of other things among those the profession) and succeed as fanfic, and are perfectly recognizable as such to everybody who knows the source. Why does this happen? Are these rare exceptions, only due to totally exceptional writing? I don't think so."

[Linked with permission from Original Poster.]


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Happy February! We're coming up on our second week in existence and are currently at 588 subscribers. Wow!

Thank you so much to everyone who's been submitting links and suggestions for the issues. Thank you also to the folks who've kindly let me link to them! I'm glad that everyone's been enjoying the newsletter and finding it useful. I'm having fun collecting and sharing links, and I look forward to sharing lots more.


GeekDad posted Toxic Fandom: When Criticism and Entitlement Go Too Far: "Like most people in fandom, I ship quite happily and I have yet to send a single death threat, because… well, sending threats of physical harm over a fictional relationship involving cartoon characters seems nonsensical to me (plus, it’s a crime in most jurisdictions)."

[personal profile] isozyme posted fannish currency and me, a Modest Name Fan : "setting aside the question of would removing kudos on AO3 lead to more comments (no, it would not), i'd like to talk about the value of my hit counter and my kudos number for me."

[personal profile] melannen posted Thoughts on canon het: "There’s a large cohort of people who think the only interesting story about romance is How They Got Together. In fanfic this works, because we can write How They Got Together 20 million times and it just gets deeper and richer with repetition, but when you’re trying to do this in a series with continuity, you either end up writing excruciatingly endless will-they-won’t-they, or repeated breakups and get-back-togethers that mostly just present a case for why they shouldn’t, or a bunch of romance-of-the-weeks that aren’t worth getting invested in, or the situation where they get together and the romance does, in fact, stop being interesting, because the writers think the interesting part is over."

Phil Plait for SyFy Wire posted Love what you love. Let others love what they love: "But it becomes a far more serious problem when these people want to declare that others shouldn't watch it because of that. That's called gatekeeping — they are standing in front of the only way in, stating None shall pass — and it's the antithesis of fandom."

[personal profile] rathany posted Post like it's the future: "tl:dr if this platform gets the momentum that I hope it will, the culture here will be something new, not a recreation of the days when I was using dial up to connect to Juno."

[personal profile] silveradept posted Expanded thoughts on the question of fandom, networks, and money: "Until things change structurally so that a person isn't forced to choose between what they love and what they need, people gotta do what they gotta do. If fandom requires a certain amount of privilege to participate, then only the privileged will be able to participate in fandom."


Flashback - 1984

Today's flashback offering was submitted by [personal profile] rosefox! It's different from previous flashbacks, as it's a whole book just about fanzines (history/background of zines: Fanlore).

Don West's book Fanzines in Theory and in Practice is available as a free download from the TransAtlantic Fan Fund. From the opening paragraph: "This is a book about fanzines. However, it has little to say about the mechanical details of fanzine production: the cutting of stencils, the layout of articles, the printing and so forth. The primary concern here is with the ideology of fanzines; not how but why they are produced and why certain approaches and strategies are more to be favoured than others."


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Continuing to tweak some small things while the newsletter is still young: new title format! Should make things a little clearer when linking/using [personal profile] astolat's reblog bookmarklet/on the reading page. Hopefully?

A reminder that the content poll will be open through the end of the weekend. Please also check out the comments, as there's some good discussion!


Eldritch Hat (Medium) posted Fandom-Plus: Metacommentary on Terrible Things Read with Enthusiasm: "There is a certain allure when it comes to being a big fan of something that most people you meet have never heard of and, moreover, seems to appeal to your sensibilities specifically. It is a feeling much like keeping a shared secret, becoming part of a hidden society with in jokes and discord servers that only some are privy to."

Alejandra for The Fandomentals posted Brood and the Sunshine: "You know them.

One is sad and melancholy, possibly grumpy and dry, or maybe even serious and sullen. The other is positive, maybe cheery and possibly even perky."

[tumblr.com profile] fansplaining posted Episode 86: The Money Question: "In Episode 86, “The Money Question,” Flourish and Elizabeth complete their inadvertent DISCOURSE TRILOGY with a conversation about the monetization of fanfiction." Transcript available.

[tumblr.com profile] fozmeadows posted fandom purity theory: "Theory: fandom drama is inversely proportional to the perceived purity of the original media. Purity in this context is measured by a combination of innocent characters, childlike associations and/or a younger intended audience, and how hashtag Representational - in the sense of being elevated as Perfect And Above Criticism because the creators make a genuine, positive effort towards diversity* - the material is. The more “pure” the source material is seen as being, the uglier the fandom debates surrounding it."

[personal profile] melannen posted on swindles and fandoms: "So I'm still way more worried about predatory publishers going 'ooh, girls are selling fanfic now! Our fandom market's not limited to boys with no social support and WoW-with-the-numbers-filed-off epics!' or about homegrown swindles and for-pay fanfic sites than I am about people using crowdfunding or commissions to fill out that last couple of hundred dollars of rent."

Mrs. Potato Head (Fanlore editor) posted How do I decide to make page for meta?: "Some topics, such as Mary Sue, m/m slash, femslash, concrit, copyright and fair use, rpf are ones that I collect (the older the better) so I can provide evidence of changing views and evolving language. Even if some of these early essays are short and may seem redundant or simplistic to fans today, I feel that it is important to have evidence of where things began and how fans talked about it."


Flashback - June 18, 2013

Building onto other links regarding past and present discussions of fandom, privacy, and community etiquette, this flashback meta covers the timeline of pre-internet fanworks (particularly fanzines) being put online, starting in the late 1990s.

[personal profile] morgandawn posted The Brick In The Wall Theory: "I have a theory about fandom and visibility: the brick in the wall theory. But instead of adding bricks to build a privacy wall, online life is more like removing bricks from the privacy wall. At least that is the case for many of the pre-Internet fans."

[Linked with permission from Original Poster.]


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Am still playing a bit with the layout. Is everybody finding it readable enough? Easily perused? Etc.?


A selection of posts about fandom and money which have popped up lately:

The Daily Duranie posted It's a Lonely Burning Question: "The thing is, and I’m going to be brutally open about this – the “It” list of fans, you know the ones – they tend to be at most of the shows, they always seem to know where and when to be, and how to get places that normal, everyday fans don’t – aren’t really on our reader list."

Function podcast posted Fn 11: Social Media, 20 Years Ago: "Anil sits down with some of the pioneers of the social web — Bruce Ableson (founder of Open Diary), Lisa Phillips (former senior system administrator at LiveJournal), and Andrew Smales (founder of Diaryland) — for an oral history about social media 20 years ago." Includes a transcript.

[personal profile] kara_mckay posted about reblogging and DW culture: "When anyone can interact with any content anyone produces, issues of personal and public become murky. In the days of old, very few people would have thought it okay for someone to go out of their way to find another user's journal and then abuse them for their content. It's a little different when your journal isn't really a journal, and isn't really personal."

Peter Rubin for Wired posted Photo Gallery: Our Favorite Cosplay From NYC's Black Comic Book Festival: "And while the cosplay stretched across cultures—attendees came styled as Sailor Moon, Kayako Saeki from The Grudge, Coming to America's Prince Akeem, and all manner of superheros—Williams says that there was no mistaking how more inclusive storytelling has changed the feeling among fans."

thewickling (Pillowfort) posted Do BNFs still exist?: "Does the concept of BNFs still exist in fandom? What does it mean to be a BNF then? How has the concept shifted over the years?"


Flashback - July 24, 2004

This meta/fandom history post was written in the early days of LiveJournal. It covers a bunch of topics: the changes in fandom discussion, public vs. private, discussion and ownership, BNFs ("Quick: When did the BNF = bad!wrong!evol concept first evolve? Answer: At the same time as the ability to see how many Friends a person has."), moving from mailing lists to other fandom spaces and the changes inherent in that, and more. It's a very good look at early 2000s fandom, fandom on LiveJournal, and the changes that happened in fandom around that time.

[livejournal.com profile] sophia_helix posted three years, three months, and 1,188 entries later: "So here we are. What makes Livejournal so drastically different?

Well, for starters, there's that self-selection thing. No longer are we blocking that hated listmate, or scanning for messages from the people we really like -- we now have the capacity put all those people in one place."

[Linked with permission from Original Poster.]


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Thank you all for your responses in the twm content poll! There's a lot of good discussion going on in the comments (as always), so please go check them out. If you'd rather PM me your thoughts instead, that's totally fine. You can also post anonymously if you're not comfortable attaching a username to your comment.

I'll leave the poll up through next weekend and then post the results.

For now, the next issue! We have a good mix of general meta, fandom-specific meta, and a con report-- which, although not strictly META, falls under the "fan experiences" part of the guidelines. I've always been interested in reading con reports, mostly because I don't get to go to nearly as many cons as I'd like, and when I DO go, I'm too nervous to really enjoy myself. Con reports offer a view into fen experiences off the internet, which is a nice change.


[personal profile] chaoticcliche posted Steven Universe and the Era of Hopepunk: "I feel like Steven Universe fits under the Hopepunk umbrella (Can we call it a genre? I feel like it would work better as a genre). Despite it's very punk themes of queerness, racial identity, gender identity, ability, otherness, and rebellion, it presents these things on a plate of sunlight and fluff. An important part of any balanced punk diet if you wanna survive out here, don't get me wrong, but nothing someone can sustain themselves on."

[personal profile] cassini posted Have a Healthy Wank: "honestly, my friends, my fellow soldiers on this front line of the bullshitstorm of existence, if your shipping is about 'goals', your personal hopes and dreams, some reflection of your emotional desires and ethics, if shipping is the way you learn about relationships, that's cool. it's sweet, fine, fuckin dandy. you do what makes you feel happy because everything sucks. but come on, don't make judgements on people who are doing their ships differently."

[twitter.com profile] cuttimecomic posted on the difficulties of building fandoms for original works: "I see ppl bitter that their original characters don't get as much attention or exposure. That's because ppl can't connect to what they don't know. YOU have to create that base. Don't forget fandoms are born from someone else's persistence and dedication to their personal works."

[tumblr.com profile] portraitoftheoddity posted “This made me uncomfortable” =/= “this harmed me.”: "I’m gonna make the radical hot take here that discomfort can be good. Not all discomfort is harm."

[personal profile] rhodanum posted of fandoms and complete shitshows: "As someone who's been involved with fandoms for twenty years now, since the pre-LJ era, one of the most baffling and actively enraging developments in recent times has been the sharp rise of content-policing from within fandom itself, rather than something caused by the intervention of an outside entity (as was the case with the fundamentalist Christian group whose caterwauling kicked off Strikethrough)."

[personal profile] slipjig3 posted Arisia 2019 Wrap-Up: Still Too Tired to Come Up with a Witty Subtitle: "Another Arisia has come, and another Arisia has gone, huzzah, forsooth and yea verily. And since my foray into long-form blogging has returned, so have many of my old blogging traditions, including the annual Cleverly Formatted Arisia Wrap-Up post."

[personal profile] sylvaine posted Linking to fanworks, and meta specifically: "I always felt that meta, like any other fanwork, was free to link to (assuming unlocked post), but there's a lot of discussion in [community profile] thisweekmeta that suggests otherwise. And I can see why! Generally speaking, meta brings a lot more discussion and potential wank with it than fictional fanworks."

[personal profile] yvannairie posted Analysing negative feelings at their root must have some value: "So I know hating characters because they come "in the way" of your ship is bad, but I wish that was something we could at least talk about, you know?"


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Hello all! After the most recent kerfuffle, I thought I would take this opportunity to ask what folks felt would be the best practices for the newsletter regarding certain sites and types of links.

I have made a Content Poll-- it's not long, and if you don't like any of the options you can totally post a comment here instead. It asks about etiquette regarding Dreamwidth/LiveJournal communities, Fanlore pages, Fanlore-found links, and what to do when an Original Poster is not available for contact.

All these questions assume the post being linked is not locked or private, and that the entity doing the linking is a newsletter.

Edit: Some further context for why linking and linking permissions is so hotly debated in fandom (Fanlore).

My own answers are currently along the lines of: community posts are probably fine to link because they were posted widely to begin with; Fanlore pages made through explicit permission of OP is best, but for certain historical meta it's okay to link anyway; linking to Fanlore to provide further context is fine; no way to ask for permission means no link; if the OP has completely disappeared from fandom and/or online, it's fine to link their stuff.

But I want to know what you think! :)

The comments here are open, and I encourage you all to discuss your thoughts with me and with each other. We've had some really good discussions in the last few days, and I'm interested in seeing what you all think about these specific linking situations.

If you can think of anything else that might be missing from either the poll or the editorial guidelines, please let me know.

Thank you! ♥
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I'm sure you all know this already, but: Always check the comments on a thing! A discussion post is just the starting point-- comments are the continuation and often end up even more interesting than the original post.

And speaking of comments: you are totally welcome to leave any kind of comment here. A response to a link, an idea for a new link, a tip or question about the newsletter-- anything goes.

Onto the issue!


[community profile] thisweekmeta collects links of fandom meta and discussions from all over the web, and welcomes submissions from readers. If you know of an excellent fandom discussion post that we've missed, whether new or old, please feel free to leave a comment on this newest issue or email the editor.

The FAQ can be found here, and our editorial guidelines can be found here. Questions, concerns, and feedback are all welcomed.


Newer Stuff

[tumblr.com profile] cfiesler posted How does new canon impact fanfiction production?: "In looking at the relationship between two of the questions - how often respondents write fanfiction and when they are most likely to write fanfiction - we see that people who write fanfiction more often are less impacted by new canon, and people who write less frequently are more likely to be inspired by new canon."

[personal profile] fairestcat posted On Fandom and the "culture of selling": "Does joining someone's Patreon or tipping them on Ko-Fi or purchasing a fanwork from them change that relationship? Probably. But not as much as some old-school fans seem to think."

quiltingsarah (Reddit) posted The olden days of fanfiction-share your memories: "The first sort of fanfic I read was in a magazine that had a story in installments I got at a Doctor Who convention in the early 1980's. it was a Star Trek/Who xo, never did read the end of it because I only found the first 2. So I'd go to cons, pick up the occasional zine."

[personal profile] quinfirefrorefiddle posted Fandom History- A Quick Rundown: "There are certain events, trends, or facts in fandom that were important enough, or in some cases just weird enough, that I'm always kind of surprised when I meet a fan who hasn't heard of them. Totally unfair, of course, I learn about fandom history I've never heard of before all the time."

Rhodanum (Pillowfort) posted THE PREQUEL TRILOGY IN THE 2000s -- A WOMAN-RUN STAR WARS FANDOM: "One thing that gets lost when discussing the history of Star Wars is how heavily female-dominated the fandom for the Prequel Trilogy was, particularly in the 2000s. Fan-site after fan-site, fan-shrine after fan-shrine, the userbases of which were overwhelmingly girls and women."

Steven T. Wright for Ars Technica posted “The Linux of social media”—How LiveJournal pioneered (then lost) blogging: "Growing up on the Web at the dawn of the social media age (circa 2007), it felt like all the connectivity-obsessed sites forming the burgeoning core of the new Internet were haunted by a faded spectre called LiveJournal. As a teen, I never actually knew anyone who had one, but I heard whispers and rumors about drama on the service all the time."


Flashback - be back soon.

Link taken down! I'll put a new one up later today. In consideration of the link owner, I have also screened comments that a) had the link or a related one, b) a Google-able quote, c) link owner's name.

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I seem to be averaging about 6-7 links per issue, plus the old school featured link. Hm. I WAS going to separate things out by topic, but if only one or two are on the same thing, it seems a little superfluous. Perhaps if I do a super-sized issue (10+) that would come in handy?


[community profile] thisweekmeta collects links of fandom meta and discussions from all over the web, and welcomes submissions from readers. If you know of an excellent fandom discussion post that we've missed, whether new or old, please feel free to leave a comment on this newest issue or email the editor.

The FAQ can be found here, and our editorial guidelines can be found here. Questions, concerns, and feedback are all welcomed.


New Stuff

alis (Mastodon) posted shipping as activism: "The growth of "shipping-as-activism" is a side-product of the mainstream popularization of liberal communist* rhetoric, discuss."

[personal profile] anneapocalypse posted A Ball of String: dreamwidth, tumblr, twitter, youtube, and a bag of chips.: "I have a lot of thoughts on this that I haven’t had time to hammer out into a post, but reading these posts, and most importantly the discussions in the comments, has been fascinating to me and I am learning a lot of things about dreamwidth culture, which, yes, already exists, and has existed this whole time, which I think is important for those of us just recently coming here to realize."

[tumblr.com profile] goldentruth813 posted a discussion about the meaning of BNF (Big Name Fan): "The term BNF really fell out of favor in the drarry squad around the decline of livejournal. I think this was a combination of the social norms of tumblr being different than livejourbal as a platform and a few other reasons which I have theories on but am not sure I really wanna share in depth right now."

More BNF info: Fanlore's Big Name Fan page.

[tumblr.com profile] icouldwritebooks posted Fandom exists because people bother to build it: "Then, one day, dumb fangirlish teenage me was making one of those “Purity Litmus Tests” (you know, the ones where the goal was to get a low score to show how “corrupted” you’d been by the thing?) for my geocities site, when I realized that all this fun I’d been having wouldn’t even exist if other fans weren’t out there creating stuff. I realized that when I created stuff, I was a part of that, and it was really cool."

[personal profile] muccamukk posted New Meta Newsletter, Signal Boosting, Linking, Dogpiling, and History: "On the other hand, there is a conflicting need: the need of people who are affected by something to express their opinion and their hurt, or to try to protect their space. I also think that is important part of fandom. And then there's just difference of opinion and people having actual discussions about them like goddamn adults. Which happens! And is also important."

[personal profile] sciatrix posted about whisperspace: the sorrow of my favorite absence: "But I haven't mentioned the thing I use the favorites for that makes me love them best of all: the ability to do the equivalent of smiling, nodding, and projecting thank you for saying that in a rough conversation, especially one where I'm concerned the other person thinks I'm angrier than I actually am."

[twitter.com profile] teawoodski posted about fandom community: "Been thinking a lot lately about differing approaches to fandom engagement; now that my favorite show's back from hiatus and we've all got fresh content to roll around in, it's hard not to notice I have an entirely different use pattern from most of my closest fandom friends"

Flashback - March 22, 2006

Older meta can be a valuable way to see how fandom has changed (or stayed the same) over time. Today's flashback meta:

[livejournal.com profile] hesychasm posted in lieu of life: "I've been here long enough to know that my fannishness is cyclical, but that it will always be part of my life. I haven't delved as deep as some, but fandom has definitely gotten its hooks into me."

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Hello all! Wow, this has been some week. The newsletter opened on Sunday 1/20/19, and as of today, Thursday 1/24/19, there are 443 subscribers. That's like 100 new subs a day! Thank you all so much for your interest in the newsletter; I hope we'll have many, many posts filled with interesting links for the next [insert length of time here]. ♥

Having said that, I took some time over the last two/three days and developed these newsletter guidelines. I'd always meant to flesh out the guiding principles of the newsletter, but let my enthusiasm get ahead of me and just went for newsletter creation without being 100% sure about the rest. There were also some concerns brought up in the FAQ post which I wanted to respond to.

This is mostly finished to a point I am happy with. There are a few things I'm still wondering about and I'm sure some of you will be able to see if there's anything missing, but I wanted to get this out before doing the next issue. So, here it is!


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So...this may end up being more than twice a week. There's WAY MORE STUFF out there than I expected to find (I haven't even really dug into Reddit/LJ/personal blogs yet!), and general consensus on my informal poll is that people prefer shorter posts more frequently? :P


We collect links from all over the web, and welcome submissions from readers. If you know of an excellent fandom meta discussion post that we've missed, whether new or "old," please feel free to leave a comment here or email the editor. Our FAQ can be found here.

Also, if you know of a good DW journal/Twitter/Tumblr/etc. user who posts regular meta, please drop a comment below.

Okay, onto the good stuff!


New stuff

alis (Mastodon) posted a discussion about social media spaces: "So a lot of Things recently make me interested in knowing how the impact of a social media platform having (or not having) tools like privacy controls and public timelines influences the way users conceptualize "their" profiles."

[personal profile] cesperanza posted Money and Networks: "Vulnerable people NEED THEIR NETWORKS for support, for pleasure, for all sorts of things, but if you're selling to your network (using guilt or whatever, or the fact that people like you, or care about you) then you're literally undercutting something really valuable that you have going for you IMO."

[twitter.com profile] dontperishyet posted fanfic writer greatest hits: "I’m a fanfic writer. You know me from my greatest hits: -“I thought this was only going to be 5K”"

enchantedsleeper (Mastodon) posted some thoughts regarding the Great Reblog Debacle: "A discussion arose in one of my fandom chats where someone (who was primarily a Tumblr user) said that they wouldn't think twice about DMing a random stranger, and didn't consider it personal. Most others in the chat were like, "Wha...? That seems so intrusive!" I think it's an Ask culture thing - many regular Tumblr users don't think twice about sending random Asks (anon or no)."

[personal profile] greywash posted but what does whisperspace mean to YOU?: "In other words: I think a lot of what I miss about tag whisperspace was that it was a clear and intuitive way of signalling a break between the part of a social media post that is media and the part of a social media post that is social."

[tumblr.com profile] probablyintraffic posted Coffee shop AUs: "Coffee shop AUs are misunderstood because more than any other AUs they inhere fantasies’ internal contradiction. Fantasies, indeed the very best fantasies, are simultaneously completely believable and fundamentally unrealistic."


Oldies but goodies

[tumblr.com profile] lysanatt posted The Fandom Divide: Nation & Cultural Citizenship: "So I dug out parts of a chapter on fandom (also a paper @ Midwest Popular Culture Association/Midwest American Culture Association Annual Conference, Chicago 2016) that might be of interest to those who want to dig deeper into what the gift cycle means to fandom, and why it works to further fandom cohesion."

[twitter.com profile] namjinary posted 3 Rules of Fandom: "In light of content creators in fandom being attacked,blamed & labelled as fetishists & sexualisers I feel the need to remind the people about the "3 Rules of Fandom" which many of us from multi fandoms already know but new ones-such as #ARMY who are new to fandom culture don't."

[tumblr.com profile] ritalara posted Let people like things with whatever intensity their own will demands.: "Let fans enjoy their faves without a legitimacy test."

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Hello all, and welcome to the first issue of This Week in Meta! Depending on how much we find each week, this will be at LEAST a twice-weekly pan-fandom newsletter centered around fandom meta and discussions.

We collect links from all over the web, and welcome submissions from readers. If you know of an excellent fandom meta discussion post that we've missed, whether new or "old," please feel free to leave a comment here or email the editor. Our FAQ can be found here.

Also, if you know of a good DW journal/Twitter/Tumblr/etc. user who posts regular meta, please drop a comment below.

Okay, onto the good stuff!

New stuff

[twitter.com profile] aroundab00t posted a discussion about ages in fandom: "Ok, yall, I'm gonna salt on main for a sec. Sometimes I see people in fandom talking abt how Weird it is for Fandom Olds to be active members of the fannish community, & people older than their teens second guessing their places in what should be a welcoming & open space..."

[twitter.com profile] eugial posted a discussion about 18+ warnings: "I've seen some of these children who think fandom is activism straight up say shit like "this is the internet no one is going to respect your 18+ only warning" and I just gotta say that's not my fucking problem. Not even a little bit. I'm not your damn parents."

[twitter.com profile] freetofic posted a Google Doc asking for people to post their experiences: "if you deal w/marginalization b/c of your race &/or ethnicity, & you have the desire/energy to share some thoughts on it, please consider responding to this Google form."

kanon (Mastodon) posted Types of Ships (non-exhaustive list): "4. [Character A, who seems to be best-suited to address B's Flaws and Insecurities]/[Character B, who seems to be best-suited to address A's Flaws and Insecurities], or: Ship Stoichiometry"

Kari-izumi (Pillowfort) posted Anti discourse: "Are they in the bubble or are we? I mean every side has assholes, but most discourse blogs started calling bullshit out once they or their friends became targets and almost none of the ones I follow off Tumblr engage in that shit in spaces where they can just be fans. Do they think we're making shit up about being harassed offline or assholes who fake suicides or use a kids cartoon to push discussion about pedophilic ships with seven year olds?"

[twitter.com profile] midgetnazgul posted this on Twitter: "the fandom version of Marie Kondo's philosophy should be "if it doesn't spark joy, shut the fuck up"

[personal profile] naraht posted On transitions and dialogue and things: "I've been reading a lot of literary fiction recently and noticing how much ease it demonstrates with transitions, and with telescoping from the particular to the general and back again. Fanfiction and popular fiction are very dialogue-heavy and tend to have scenes like scenes in films, where you get a straightforward narrative describing exactly what happens while (say) two characters are in a room together."

[personal profile] novembermond posted how to find comms on dw & and how to get people to find your comm: "so let's say you have just seen the movie "Venom" and now want to find posts about it. On tumblr you'd type in the tag and you would find all the posts tagged Venom. That was your "community" on tumblr. On dw you can follow comms, but it is not the same as tracking a tag on tumblr. People's posts don't show in any tag automatically (tags on dw are only for your own organisation). Rather you need to specifically create comms and have people post their stuff in them."


Oldies but goodies

attackfish posted over at Pillowfort: "It’s really a shame that the imperative “examine why you like something” has come to be such a part of the toolbox of people who want to make you stop liking the thing (with the implication that if you think about the thing, you will not only stop liking the thing but come to the realization that it really is wrong and terrible!!!), because examining why you like something and figuring out why you like it is a great way to get more out of the thing."

Jessica Conditt for Engadget posted Nerdy, written erotica doesn't need Tumblr to survive: "When Verizon was in the process of buying Yahoo and Tumblr, many people in fandom communities saw the writing on the wall, largely because they'd endured this process before. Fanfiction and fanart has found a home at a handful of sites over the years, from LiveJournal and FanFiction.net to DeviantArt and Tumblr -- but it seems that every time it settles in at a particular site, the terms of service get updated and the community is purged."

[personal profile] melannen posted You're about to view content that the journal owner has marked as possibly inappropriate for anyone: "Because the other thing is: the adult content warning on all the entries does not make a distinction between "this entry is marked adult" and "this journal is marked adult". When you click through to the second warning page, it does give a reason if you entered a reason, but that's it, and that doesn't show on reading pages. And most people who have their entire journal set to adult are doing it "just in case", and 90% of their entries are not, in fact, adult. This can lead to a weird impression."

[personal profile] doctorsidrat (me!) posted fandom meta discussions on mastodon, covering old people in fandom, DW communities, Tumblr people moving to DW, Tumblr etiquette vs DW etiquette.

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