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thisweekmeta mod ([personal profile] thisweekmod) wrote in [community profile] thisweekmeta2019-01-29 08:16 am

006. January 29, 2019

Am still playing a bit with the layout. Is everybody finding it readable enough? Easily perused? Etc.?


A selection of posts about fandom and money which have popped up lately:

The Daily Duranie posted It's a Lonely Burning Question: "The thing is, and I’m going to be brutally open about this – the “It” list of fans, you know the ones – they tend to be at most of the shows, they always seem to know where and when to be, and how to get places that normal, everyday fans don’t – aren’t really on our reader list."

Function podcast posted Fn 11: Social Media, 20 Years Ago: "Anil sits down with some of the pioneers of the social web — Bruce Ableson (founder of Open Diary), Lisa Phillips (former senior system administrator at LiveJournal), and Andrew Smales (founder of Diaryland) — for an oral history about social media 20 years ago." Includes a transcript.

[personal profile] kara_mckay posted about reblogging and DW culture: "When anyone can interact with any content anyone produces, issues of personal and public become murky. In the days of old, very few people would have thought it okay for someone to go out of their way to find another user's journal and then abuse them for their content. It's a little different when your journal isn't really a journal, and isn't really personal."

Peter Rubin for Wired posted Photo Gallery: Our Favorite Cosplay From NYC's Black Comic Book Festival: "And while the cosplay stretched across cultures—attendees came styled as Sailor Moon, Kayako Saeki from The Grudge, Coming to America's Prince Akeem, and all manner of superheros—Williams says that there was no mistaking how more inclusive storytelling has changed the feeling among fans."

thewickling (Pillowfort) posted Do BNFs still exist?: "Does the concept of BNFs still exist in fandom? What does it mean to be a BNF then? How has the concept shifted over the years?"


Flashback - July 24, 2004

This meta/fandom history post was written in the early days of LiveJournal. It covers a bunch of topics: the changes in fandom discussion, public vs. private, discussion and ownership, BNFs ("Quick: When did the BNF = bad!wrong!evol concept first evolve? Answer: At the same time as the ability to see how many Friends a person has."), moving from mailing lists to other fandom spaces and the changes inherent in that, and more. It's a very good look at early 2000s fandom, fandom on LiveJournal, and the changes that happened in fandom around that time.

[livejournal.com profile] sophia_helix posted three years, three months, and 1,188 entries later: "So here we are. What makes Livejournal so drastically different?

Well, for starters, there's that self-selection thing. No longer are we blocking that hated listmate, or scanning for messages from the people we really like -- we now have the capacity put all those people in one place."

[Linked with permission from Original Poster.]


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[personal profile] runpunkrun 2019-01-29 07:08 pm (UTC)(link)
The trick is to jam the code all together in the HTML post editor. At least that's how I do it.

So instead of this:

[ul]
[li] list [/li]
[li] list [/li]
[li] list [/li]
[/ul]

Delete the returns between the list items so it looks like this:

[ul] [li] list [/li] [li] list [/li] [li] list [/li] [/ul]

But with angle brackets, of course. I can't get DW to show the raw code without actually turning it into a list.
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[personal profile] gunpowderandlove 2019-01-29 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
that's it! Once I put everything on the same line, it showed up the way I wanted it to. Unfortunately for me I like typing out my code as I go, maybe I will have to use [personal profile] thisweekmod's method and go with r markdown.

Thank you!!
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[personal profile] runpunkrun 2019-01-29 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Now I'm investigating markdown! I had no idea it worked on DW. Wait does it work in comments??

Answer: NO. It does not. That would be super userful.
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[personal profile] gunpowderandlove 2019-01-29 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
What a strange new world.

I just found that out as well! I ended up making a little post about my thoughts about it, just so that I could include markdown formatting.
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HTML and "don't auto-format"

[personal profile] jesse_the_k 2019-01-30 04:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Dreamwidth's original post editor and the reply editor (once you select "more options") offer a don't auto-format ticky box. (Can't find that control for new editor.)

In the HTML spec, newlines are supposed to be ignored. To make everyday writing easier, DW's editor respects newlines you type. That's why you get extra space when you separate the list items. When you check "don't auto-format," those newlines are ignored when posting.

The other thing auto-format provides is making totally plain links clickable. The HTML spec requires you to wrap a link: to create
https://example.com
you have to type
<a href="https://example.com">https://example.com</a>

Here's a bare link that the editor has magically made clickable:

https://example.com

visit: https://www.dreamwidth.org/beta to turn on the new "beta" better post editor
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Re: HTML and "don't auto-format"

[personal profile] gunpowderandlove 2019-01-30 07:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh this is awesome! Thank you for pointing that out.
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[personal profile] manna 2019-01-30 02:53 pm (UTC)(link)
If you want to show example HTML with the angled brackets, you can do it with HTML entities.

&lt; gives you a <
&gt; gives you a >
&amp; gives you a &

So the HTML looks like this:

&lt;ul&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Cobb&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Arthur&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Ariadne&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;li&gt;Eames&lt;/li&gt;
&lt;/ul&gt;

And displays like this:

<ul>
<li>Cobb</li>
<li>Arthur</li>
<li>Ariadne</li>
<li>Eames</li>
</ul>

But how did I get those HTML entities themselves to display without converting into characters, you ask?

I used the &amp; entity to create the initial ampersand character! So that &amp; in the previous sentence was coded as &amp;amp;. And &amp;amp;amp; displays as &amp;amp; etc.
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[personal profile] runpunkrun 2019-01-30 06:34 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, I knew I could do that, and forgot. What I was trying to do was get the "code" tag to work, but I guess it doesn't work on HTML itself, and I couldn't google around for one of those code boxes...because I don't know what they're called.