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-- Last updated January 24, 2019.

Date: 2019-01-23 06:19 pm (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional
From your answers and general participation/etc (and like, here I want to say: go you for stepping up to do a big thing! I have much sympathy with the Stress involved!), this may go without saying, but it might also be good to note whether or not you'll respect people putting a "please don't aggregate" note on their posts.

An example: a while back I was doing a thing where I summarized the events of the Silmarillion chapter-by-chapter in Approachable Me-Style Talk. It was something I was happy to do publicly, and I was absolutely fine with people spreading individually, but at the time I was super burned on the kind of attention that could come from any kind of aggregator (whether this kind of metafandom one or even the kind of Fandom Newsletters that were still stumbling along to silent death at the time).

So I put a "please do not aggregate" note on the index post, because I knew that those operating at the time knew what that meant and would follow it.

Honestly just from what I've seen in responses it seems intuitively likely you would too! So it might seem like A Given? But I think explicitly noting it if so would also help anyone who is wary feel better.

Date: 2019-01-23 09:30 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
A lot of people on Tumblr who wrote personal posts but had unlocked blogs (because you couldn't lock them) would tag them "please don't reblog." Guess what, people reblogged them to add a sympathetic note anyway.

I already have a note about 'please don't repost huge chunks of my blog without asking' and don't really want to add another one about 'please don't link to a newsletter without asking' because then it seems next week I'm going to have to add 'please don't X without asking'....I know DW has privacy controls but it seems like some people are more used to the Tumblr binary on/off -- if it's public, it's REALLY public, so to speak.

Date: 2019-01-23 09:42 pm (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional

That's why I'm talking about this specific account saying specifically that they won't aggregate if there's a note right on the post. Presumably the people operating the account would then follow their own specific policy. (And if not this is a whole different convo.)

I'm not actually stating "I think we should norm things so that everything's fair game" bc I'm not actually in control of the norms and have elsewhere already made pretty clear that I think asking before linking in this kind of newsletter is a better way to go? So.

I just think there's benefit in stating "by the way we will definitely abide by any notes on your post saying 'don't link this in newsletters'", because then people can work on the assumption that you're that level of thoughtful/respectful of the poster's wishes, unless you do something specific to make that a lie. I think noting that explicitly - for this newsletter, specifically - has a potential benefit in terms of signalling attention to those concerns.

Like: there's no way to keep malicious or thoughtless Persons In General from linking or copying or otherwise using anything public, so if one is assuming bad faith/indifference then locking is your only way. So I'm not really bothering to think about those cases. Much like that kind of person isn't going to be stopped by my having a related works policy, they're also gonna link anything that isn't locked? So.

Date: 2019-01-24 02:25 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] kore
That wasn't my point. My point was that I don't want to have to come up with new disclaimers about stuff I'm only hearing about by chance every single time, because I think some people may be working with slightly different definitions of what's public/private. I don't want to see people on DW just lock posting period -- that would make the site more like Tumblr not less. My problem like other peoples' was with the original "We don't ask permission to link to publicly available posts, but we will give you a head's up that it's going into an issue." If a weekly newsletter goes ahead and says "Permission to link?" that's really different. And people in general ask first, even if it's a friend asking to quote in their own DW, or maybe post it in a "greatest quotes" community.

Date: 2019-01-24 02:28 am (UTC)
recessional: a photo image of feet in sparkly red shoes (Default)
From: [personal profile] recessional

....okay?

I'm not sure why you're bringing this to me as I've already stated I think that asking etc is the best idea and what I'd prefer?

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